It runs about 100fps less out of my G17, and cycles my M9 and Browning Hi-Power perfectly as well. Munitions tir de loisir, 22LR, Plombs 4,5mm et 9mm Flobert > Munitions - Balles 22LR. by Tugnut » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:41 am, Post Love this story! I just saw that AMMOMAN has Federal 146 SS for $175 a case. Tous les canons de 9mm para (et autres calibres) sont sensiblement différents d’où cette mesure. Thanks. Contrairement à tout autre calibre, la plupart des fabricants de pistolet calibre ont tendance à un grand nombre de leurs pistolets à 9mm. by mpallett » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:42 am, Post Hornady’s 300 BLK subsonic 208-grain A-Max load, for example, delivers 480 foot-pounds of energy from a carbine’s muzzle. This is out of a 5" MP5K barrel, fluted chamber and QD3K can. It literally takes the “human factor” out of the equation. Yes, that was a great range day. It’s about 15 years old, and has literally shot just about every type of 9mm ammunition I could throw at it with near 100% reliability. Gives me 975fps out of my 10" Colt 635 barrel with Gemtech Raptor can. Le pistolet 9mm, également connu sous le 9 × 19, le lugeur 9mm Parabellum ou 9mm, est le calibre le plus populaire pour pistolets / armes de poing qui sont menées dans le monde entier. These loads are noted as subsonic. Would love for you to do the same thing except with standard primers (Winchester or CCI), just to see if the magnum primers were a difference maker. by BBlakley » Mon May 23, 2005 6:35 am, Post Special K clocks about 950fps with a suppressor attached. I shot 5-shot groups for each pistol (multiple sets) until things settled down and “round groups” were observed. And this load performed really well! Gives me 975fps out of my 10" Colt 635 barrel with Gemtech Raptor can. The Glock 17 (with same Bear Creek Arsenal threaded barrel) shot *slightly* better without the suppressor, but not enough to make a difference for what I have planned. 9mm Luger 147 gr XTP ® Subsonic Item #90287 | 25/Box Shhh... tell everyone! Poll: What handgun cartridge do you reload most often? Marque: Magtech. Subsonic Handgun utilizes tried-and-true XTP® bullets that expand reliably at subsonic velocities. Remington Subsonic 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain FNEB ammo review offers the following information; Remington Subsonic ammo featured virgin brass never fired brand new brass casings for those shooters that like to reload their 9mm Luger ammunition. Type d'ogive: Creuse l'avis de l'expert. La munition GECO en calibre 9x19 subsonic est dotée dune ogive FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) dun poids de 154 grains. Makes a good training load out of the pistols. Votre nom * Titre * Avis * Envoyer * Champs requis. 9mm 147gr Subsonic “Magic Load”, Hard to Believe! by noiseless » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:48 am, Post 4/5 shots on 10″ steel at 24.1 yards (I was SHOCKED) and the following chronograph data: (click/tap to enlarge). Si balles plombs alors le choix doit être plus judicieux, il faudra mesurer l’intérieur du canon afin de choisir le diamètre adéquat. Since I reload, I used a friend's recipe for competition 147 grain rounds as my subsonic load. Subsonic ammunition usually uses heavier bullets to retain as much energy and momentum as possible at the lower velocities. by Racer » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:21 pm, Post Use load data at your own risk. As a note: Special K in this gun/silencer combination has V= 1010 fps and sounds a little louder to my ears. I have tried just about all pistol powders for subsonic 9mm and settled on Vihtavuori N320 and N340, and prefer N340 of those two. Find your best price for 9mm Luger Ammo handgun subsonic | Best 9mm Luger Ammunition handgun subsonic - AmmoSeek.com Search Engine 2021 I've been hunting everywhere locally for 147gr 9mm. Accuracy for this 147 grain subsonic load was awesome, but it was the chronograph data where things were even more impressive, with a twist! Les munitions utilisée sont à percussion centrale. The tricky part is going to be determining 'subsonic.' Le 9 × 19 mm Parabellum est un calibre de cartouche destinée aux pistolets semi-automatiques. I shoot a lot of 9mm, so I recently purchased a Bear Creek Arsenal threaded Glock 17 barrel that has performed really well! ... 25708 avis clients 4.8/5 |voir tous les avis| Envoyez nous VOS DOCUMENTS. The Sub-X bullet used in Subsonic Rifle features a lead core. The Ransom Rest is an invaluable tool for testing handgun accuracy. Don’t miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make sure you’re subscribed! It's about impossible to find. GTG subsonic ammo is designed for suppressed or silenced firearms. by osprey21 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:40 am, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. C'est à ce jour le calibre d'arme de poing le plus largement répandu au monde, notamment comme munition d'arme de poing standard de l'OTAN.Sa dénomination métrique est 9 × 19 mm.Il est parfois nommé 9 mm Para ou encore 9 mm Luger, car mis au point par Georg Luger pour son fameux Luger P08. In 9mm, most loading data are supersonic. by mrrogers1 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:56 pm, Post by silencertalk » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:29 pm, Post Découvrez notre sélection de carabines 12mm et 410 en mono coup, superposés et juxtaposés avec les marques : BAIKAL, FALCO, GAUCHER, MANU CHASSE. For the testing conducted in this article, I withdrew the Kel-Tec from my IWB holster, unloaded the magazine and chamber, blew away the pocket lint, and started shooting. Messages: 14,386 Likes Received: 4,954. Your email address will not be published. You have to buy it from the maker -- Alabama Ammunition. CFE Pistol is one of my favorite powders for 9, but I’m curious – how did you decide to use magnum primers? Some data is shown that is subsonic. Bullets used in this article: (click below), Brass used in this article: (click below), Barrel used in this article: (click below). Follow @UReloader 3.8gr Bullseye under a 147gr FMJ went about 950fps also. I'll check it out if I don't score on Monday. I’ve been experimenting w/ 147gr subsonic loads as well, but with Blue Bullets. Ultimate Reloader LLC is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer’s published data. Since eventually someone will ask for Phil Dater's favorite recipe for 9mm for a Raptor on an MP5, it is: I am using 3.6gr of Winchester 231 over a 147gr Rainier Ballistics plated JHP. by stymie » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:17 pm, Post I am not sure of their phone number. Does anyone know the "Secret Sauce" in the Special K? Super quiet! !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? Pretty much any 147 grain 9mm ammunition is subsonic. And I found the “load that can do it all” with some unexpected surprises too… And that’s the subject of this article! LIVRAISON CHEZ VOUS dans un POINT RELAIS ou dans NOTRE MAGASIN. Has anyone tried to duplicate the Portugese FNM SS round. These 9mm Luger rounds from Military Ballistics Industries (MBI) are great for suppressed use as well as for replicating the recoil of common carry ammo! Une balle subsonique, du préfixe latin sub- (sous) et sonique (relatif au son), est une balle dont la vitesse en sortie de bouche du canon est inférieure à la vitesse du son, soit inférieure à 340 m/s. I have found them to be the cleanest burning and produce the lowest amount smoke. I worked up this load for my recent story showcasing the LEE Loadmaster: Here’s the components used for the load featured in that article/story: Use load data at your own risk. by mrrogers1 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:41 am, Post Hornady® Subsonic Ammunition — designed for accuracy and performance below the speed of sound — now comes in both rifle and handgun loads. Poll: What Progressive Reloading Press Do You Use Most? Here’s the roll-up data: The Canik TP9SFX has proven to be an accurate pistol, and this load worked well with it for sure! WOW. Your email address will not be published. Why 24.1 yards? 16 articles vous permettront d'évaluer, comparer et forger votre opinion sur de nombreux produits vendus sur NaturaBuy dans la catégorie Munitions - Balles 22LR by Tugnut » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:21 am, Post Required fields are marked *. Now that I have suppressors, I’m very interested in subsonic loads for pistols and rifles that I shoot frequently. May 13, 2020 Gavin Budget Reloading and Shooting, Reloading Blog 9mm +P, 9mm 147gr RN, Bear Creek Arsenal Glock Barrel, Berry's 9mm 147 grain Round Nose, Berry's Plated Bullets, Canik TP9SFX, Glock Replacement Barrel, Glock Threaded Barrel, Hodgdon CFE Pistol, Lee Loadmaster, Reloading, Reloading Blog, Reloading Press, Reloading Videos, Remington Primers, Starline 9mm, Ultimate Reloader. Oh yea, and excellent results out of what’s basically a snubby in semi-auto. I wonder if something about your Taurus barrel yields higher velocities like a tighter chamber, smoother rifling, or a better gas seal? Poll: What Rifle Cartridge Do You Reload Most Often? Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer's published data. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; }. Why not 24 yards? Great shot placement, 95% of the velocity attained in the G17 (unsuppressed), 100% functioning, and a Standard Deviation in velocity of 2.7 FPS for 5 shots. The following is a summary of this testing. GECO cal.9mm PARA FMJ IPSC Subsonic (154gr) /1000 cartouches. Favorite 9mm subsonic load. I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see it, do it, and catch it on film! The accuracy for the Canik TP9SFX and the Glock 17 (without suppressor) were very comparable. Munitions Geco 9x19 154gr Subsonique. Poll: What Reloading Components Can’t You Find? loads are, but some are not.I have seen a few FMJ suppressor loadings advertised, but I have yet to find a defensive load that is marketed as subsonic. SELLIER & BELLOTCal.9mm LUGER (PARA) SUBSONICType: Full Metal Jacket Poids: 140 grains (9.0g)Vitesse: 305m/sEnergie: 419 joulesLot de 20 Boites de 50 cartouches Les munitions GECO offrent une excellente qualité et un rapport prix performance remarquable. by fq1234 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:46 pm, Post Cette munition subsonique de calibre .22 LR est idéale pour s’accorder avec une arme munie d’un réducteur de son, ce qui permet des tirs remarquablement silencieux. If you liked the load shown in this article (I sure do), you’ll want to stock up on Starline Brass and Berry’s 147 grain bullets! J'aurai un autre avis à recevoir: Je recharge pour mon colt 1911 en 9mm avec les memes douilles mêmes ogives et même poudre. Hard to believe. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This is due to the use of a 147-grain plated round nose bullet from Berry's which is loaded to fly at subsonic speeds. This cost effective 9mm ammunition is loaded with a brass casing, Winchester primer and powder along with a 147 grain full metal jacket (FMJ). Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. This ammunition was loaded on an inexpensive press (LEE Loadmaster), loaded with economical bullets (Berry’s 147 grain Plated 9mm Round Nose), and was shot through a low-cost micro pistol with outstanding results. Munition 22 LR de Magtech . Hornady® Subsonic Ammunition — designed for accuracy and performance below the speed of sound — now comes in both rifle and handgun loads. Contact ultimate reloader by clicking here. All data in this caliber is subsonic but is not normally tagged with the name subsonic. 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Subsonic Handgun utilizes tried-and-true XTP® bullets that expand reliably at subsonic velocities. lol. by Racer » Thu May 05, 2005 1:13 am, Post I haven’t lubricated this pistol in years- and it functioned 100% during during this testing! Therefore, the development of a reliable 9mm subsonic load was “top of list” for me recently. I’ve been watching your vids for years now and have greatly expanded my reloading knowledge thanks to you. Voici le pack de 50 balles de calibre 22 LR (22 long Rifle) de type subsonique de la marque Winchester.. Qu'est-ce qu'une balle subsonique ? Pour le 9mm préférer les FMJ ou TMJ (électro cuivrés) qui forcément n’emplomberont pas le canon. Jan 3, 2012 #3 . Now that I have suppressors, I’m very interested in subsonic loads for pistols and rifles that I shoot frequently. It also features a non corrosive boxer primer and a lead core full metal jacket bullet flat nose. Post Think .45 ACP. Old=F1 Chrony, Second=Beta Master Chrony. Quality. This load functions the gun 100% with factory springs. BOITE DE 50 MUNITIONS 9x19 FMJ SELLIER & BELLOT - BLINDÉE : En raison de la simplicité du procédé de fabrication, la balle blindée offre un prix de revient bas qui se reflète sur son coût d'achat, ce qui en fait une munition très intéressante pour les tireurs à forte cadence d'entrainements. On dit qu’une ogive vole à vitesse subsonique lorsque sa vitesse est très inférieure à celle du son, c’est à dire inférieure à 300 m/s. Most 147gr. check_circle. I just made a 9mm subsonic load of 3.3gr of VV N320, 147 Berry's plated, 1.155 coal. Poll: Where are you finding reloading primers and powder? by QuietShootr » Wed May 04, 2005 10:59 pm, Post by Mongo » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:41 am, Post Well, it could be my cheap ass Chrony that's wrong.... Well I did some more testing this time with two chronographs (one was used for my original data). Therefore, the development of a reliable 9mm subsonic load was “top of list” for me recently. This ammunition caters to the silencer user or anyone just wanting a dependable and consistent subsonic load that does not produce supersonic cracks. by Tugnut » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:01 am, Post I would love to know, as well, as my suppressed Cx4 is my preferred bedside weapon, if I know it's going down 'inside.' Subsonic Drive Pro Sport – Avis sur un volant entrée de gamme Subsonic Drive Pro Sport – Avis sur un volant entrée de gamme Sam ayant pu tester auparavant le brillant mais néanmoins onéreux Thrustmaster P310 Sparco , on nous a proposé d’y essayer un volant entrée de gamme » Subsonic … Mon problème est que je dois descendre ma LHT à 28,72 mm pour être à fleur des rayures autrement je plante au dessus et apres avoir effectué mon échelle je groupe qu'a partir de la charge maximale qui est de 0,28 gr. Type: Subsonique. I started with a Hornady Classic single stage press and am now running a Dillon XL-750! I call this an “Adventure in Economy”. by Tugnut » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:22 am, Post I like the idea of VV powder for suppressors, lower burn temperature than hot stuff like titegroup or bullseye, and lower muzzle pressure. by Racer » Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:56 am, Post Does it have to do with the math? I have to ask. Ces armes appelées fusils ou carabines de jardin peuvent être redoutables à de courtes distances (15 à 20 mètres). Modérateur de son SKM Impuls - ∅ 9mm - 1/2x28. chemcmndr, Jan 2, 2012. chemcmndr, Jan 2, 2012. Seriously? Thanks for the info, Racer. For the testing of this 147 grain 9mm load, I shot 5-shot groups through my Glock 17 (with and without Osprey 45 Suppressor), and my Canik TP9SFX (see this article for full review of that pistol). Used in my HK P30L w/ Octane 9 HD suppressor. ronin.45. by silencertalk » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:07 pm, Post 9mm Luger Ammo The 9×19mm Parabellum (abbreviated 9mm, 9mmP, 9×19mm or 9×19) cartridge was designed by Georg Luger and introduced in 1902 by the German weapons manufacturer Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM) for their Luger semi-automatic pistol. by mrrogers1 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:46 pm, Post La plupart des rechargements classiques des tireurs au 9mm Para, sont souvent déjà subsonique, et investir dans des balles de 147 grains (souvent vendues bien plus cher, jusqu'à 2 ou 3 fois le prix des 124/125 grains ) n'est pas vraiment une nécessité pour tirer en subsonique. Dealer price on that stuff is pretty cheap. This setup  (Glock 17 and Osprey 45 suppressor) is the result I cared about most for this load since it’s the setup I plan to use to shoot subsonic 9mm most frequently (at least, until I get a threaded barrel for the Canik TP9SFX!). What was harder to believe was the results. But because of this long bullet’s incredible ballistic coefficient of .648, at 500 yards it surpasses the energy of a full-power 55-grain .223 Rem., and nearly triples that of the .45 ACP, and it does so in a hushed tone. It runs about 100fps less out of my G17, and cycles my M9 and Browning Hi-Power perfectly as well. by mrrogers1 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:09 pm, Post Here’s a roll-up of the Glock 17 and Canik TP9SFX data: (click/tap to enlarge), **Note that two shots for the Canik TP9SFX data were not recorded due to a shot alignment issue (human error), My Kel-Tec PF9 is my everyday city carry gun (and ranch carry outside of bear season). by noiseless » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:37 am, Post Poll: What’s your number one reason for reloading? Post by QuietShootr » Thu May 05, 2005 3:59 am I am using 3.6gr of Winchester 231 over a 147gr Rainier Ballistics plated JHP. On dit qu’une ogive vole à vitesse transsonique (ou sonique) lorsque sa vitesse est comprise entre 310 m/s et 380 m/s, ce qui correspond de Mach 0,9 à Mach 1,1. Dr. Dater, I am pretty sure, knows how to duplicate Special K. I would never make it when I can buy it. by mrrogers1 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:15 pm, Post Il sagit donc dune ogive blindée, ce qui lui confère un fort pouvoir de pénétration ainsi quune très faible déformation à limpact. by Racer » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:49 pm, Post Dotée d’une ogive en plomb durci à pointe creuse, elle est faite pour s’écraser sur sa cible avec une pénétration limitée. I like 3.5 gr Bullseye under 147 grain Rainier or Berry bullet. by osprey21 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:42 pm, Post I shoot a lot of 9mm, so I recently purchased a Bear Creek Arsenal threaded Glock 17 barrel that has performed really well! Material connection (partnerships) information available at http://ultimatereloader.com/about/, Don’t miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make. Remington Subsonic is the result of a collaboration between AAC and Remington to deliver quiet ammunition designed to maximize the effectiveness of the silencer. Joined: Apr 24, 2008 I am using 3.6gr of Winchester 231 over a 147gr Rainier Ballistics plated JHP. This yields about 995 fps in my PT-92 with Omega PC-K2 suppressor. 'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+'://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs'); © 2021 Copyright 2016 Ultimate Reloader LLC.
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